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"Forgotten wounds don't heal...I film to heal" Emad Burnat
I could just as easily say, "I write to heal" or "I photograph to heal"

Google "5 Broken Cameras"

I think it's worth watching.

(I've taken out the link because I've been told we don't like links for security reasons. Makes sense to me. Oh and poles are out too.)

Alright you're in trouble now, frame!! I thought i was gonna get more than one choice. But, Noooo! Lol.
Actually, I was going to choose all but the painting, because I can't afford painting supplies.

If by phn battery dies before I can finish typing,...then why waste time?
There maybe a couple more things that help with healing...music, journalism, animals, humor, temporary beer fixes, um...jumping off a cliff. Lol! And there's always PIE, Frame. Can't forget THAT one. Heehee.
Please get back to me. Hmmm. Now you've got me dwellings on healing remedies. Does laughing gas count?

Coffee with hazelnut creamer and some sugar, while decorating my new found freedom structure.

Don't get me started, because I can go on and on about healing about as much as I can gripe about things. Thank you for starting the poll, Frame. It initiates self reflection, thus causing me to want to write a list of all things I appreciate as alternatives to stress

I binge eat

Hi karolanne,
How are you? So, what kinds of foods do you typically binge on?

White pastas in tomatoe juice. I can eat a real lot of them in one meal. And chocolate, nutella, chips...

Hi karolanne,
How funny! I just read your post while sitting here eating lasagna. The timing couldn't be better.

LOL Pastas are so good, isn't? yummy yummy

They sure are. I prefer mine topped with melted cheese, and I like lots of garlic. Must be the Italian in me--that I'm a pasta freak. I've yet to meet anyone that hasn't literally told me that my spaghetti is the best they'd ever tried. Yes, it goes to my head. Also, I'm picky about my pasta. (maybe why I make pasta dishes well)

Do you have any weight issues? Loving that much pastas can bring weight issue. I do lol Mostly because of pastas but because of chocolate and nutella too..

I have a theory Karolanne. I have been thinging about posting it but the conversation has veerd away. I am not sure it fits here but I'll try it out.

Ok, first the science. Our bodies have two energy modes; let's call them endothermic and exothermic. During a meal and digestion, our bodies are working to store energy (enodthermic). Our cells are absorbing things in our bloodstream; sugars, fats, nutients, anything else including preservatives and other toxins.

In the exothermic mode we are burning energy and things are leaving our cells for our bloodstream. And, this includes chemistry as well as toxins. Things are burned, filtered, synthesized, broken down, excreted,... This is our active state and also a detoxifying state. When we are egaged and busy, we might not notice so much but, thiose toxins in our system don't feel very good. Fasting is difficult, partly because we may be inactive while our bodies are detoxifying. It's good but it feels bad.

Ok ; that's the science. Now the theory. In watching the eating habits of those around me, I have come to wonder whether some people (including a few in my family) have come to confuse the feeling of detoxification with the feeling of hunger. Thus, unless they are distracted, whenever they stop working and they feel kinda yucky (because their bodies are cleansing themselfs inside) they get the urge to eat.

This could be counterproductive in two ways. First it halts the endothermic mode and packs those toxins back into our cells (not good for long term health) . Second, we may not actually need the calories or the nutrition.

So I have a suggestion but I'm almost at work. I'll post again.

from above wrote:Ok, first the science. Our bodies have two energy modes; let's call them endothermic and exothermic. During a meal and digestion, our bodies are working to store energy (enodthermic). Our cells are absorbing things in our bloodstream; sugars, fats, nutients, anything else including preservatives and other toxins.

In the exothermic mode we are burning energy and things are leaving our cells for our bloodstream. And, this includes chemistry as well as toxins. Things are burned, filtered, synthesized, broken down, excreted,... This is our active state and also a detoxifying state. When we are egaged and busy, we might not notice so much but, thiose toxins in our system don't feel very good. Fasting is difficult, partly because we may be inactive while our bodies are detoxifying. It's good but it feels bad.

Ok ; that's the science. Now the theory. In watching the eating habits of those around me, I have come to wonder whether some people (including a few in my family) have come to confuse the feeling of detoxification with the feeling of hunger. Thus, unless they are distracted, whenever they stop working and they feel kinda yucky (because their bodies are cleansing themselfs inside) they get the urge to eat.

This could be counterproductive in two ways. First it halts the endothermic mode and packs those toxins back into our cells (not good for long term health) . Second, we may not actually need the calories or the nutrition.

Ok; there's the science and the theory.

The factual components I see are three: The quantity of toxins in our bodies, the amount of food we eat, and the time we spend eating it. Why?

Each time we slow down our activity and and feel our bodies detoxifying; the more toxins we have stored, the worse we feel. But the more toxins, the more we need to rid them from our body.

The more food we eat, the longer it takes to digest; which means the longer we spend in food storage (endothermic) mode, where we don't feel those toxins in our system.

Likewise, the longer we spend eating, the longer we spend in endothermic mode.

The goals I see are three:

To detoxify our bodies to maintain health (And remember, the fewer toxins, the less we feel the effects of detox.)

To enjoy our food and the time we spend eating without sacrificing other parts of our life.

To balance and manage with mindfulness the time our bodies are in endothermic vs. exothermic mode. They are both essential.

More later.

which energy mode my body is when I do my training at the gym? Exothermic? I train 4 times a week, 2 to 2.5 hours each time, including workout and cardio. Sometimes, I think I may do at least one hour of cardio every day to help me with my extra weight, but for now, my body just can't follow to allow me to train everyday.

That's definitely exothermic and 10 hours of gym a week is great. Keep in mind what I'm saying is just my theory. But I think the harder part being in exothermic mode when we aren't distracted with hard work.

The suggestion I was moving toward might seem simplistic but it was something along the lines of gaining awareness over just before you start to binge. And I'm no therapist but I was going ask you to wait; not distract your self with anything else, but when you know it's about to happen, give yourself a half hour. Time yourself, spend a half hour just before you binge, and sit with your body and notice how it feels. Your reward is to go ahead. I'd really like to know the result. I'm not talking about spending half hour sometime during the day, you can't bank this. But just before you turn on the gas to boil the water, then stop watch for a half hour how your body feels. That's my thought, for what it's worth.