Homeless (May Trigger)

[mattyj]

Have read through this thread and not sure what to say

Other than keep your chin up and keep plugging away until it sorts itself out

Pretty lousy thing for your parents to do, throwing you out because you fell pregnant (or was there more to it?)

Is the father of the baby helping you in anyway? surely he has some responsibilities here

PM me if you want to talk about anything, my Tara had some pretty major issues when she was younger (with pregnancy and stuff) so i may be able to give you some advice based on what shes told me over the times...

[CrazyLady17]

Sorry no haven't had chance to reply yet... In hospital and all.

Well I don't plan on getting a job yet, as well I am getting sectioned just after Christmas period finishes and that means I loose all the responibity I would normally have. It bloody sucks rotten eggs
But for the best I suppose...

No( my parents thrown me out all because I became pregnant, pretty damn childish of them to do really!

And no; the father of my baby well he is my ex and well he can be violet and lets just say he is a player and a cheater

[CrazyLady17]

Realised when I get out of my section- I'll still be homeless? Erm what?!
How is this even possible?
Gosh I might as well die, before it's too late.

[stace]

Don't give up sweetheart. Take each day at a time and you will get through, you are stronger than you could ever imagine. x

[CrazyLady17]

Aww thank you
This made me smile Tehe.

I'll try not to give up....
But slowly am giving up blah x

[CrazyLady17]

I deserve to be homeless... Don't i? Of course I do.. I'm such a screw up, I'm a bitch.
Even when I leave this hospital I'll still be homeless, what is the point anymore? Giving up big time now.

[stace]

You don't deserve to be homeless, we all make mistakes in life and there are people far worse than you in the world; many with a lot of money and power who deserve neither.
It's quite sickening in this so-called wealthy country where we probably have more golf clubs than homeless people. Some countries make it a basic human right to have a roof over your head. This is how it should be in the UK, a right, not a privilege but I could go on for hours about that and it won't help anyone much.

I would love to wish you a happy xmas, but I guess there is little hope of that for you this year so I will be wishing us both a happier xmas for next year. Just hang in there ok. Please Do Not Give Up and remember, it is you who has been let down by your parents, by your council etc. You have every right to be angry and no reason to blame yourself but if you can't target that anger in a productive way and at the right people, throw it this way and I will do my best to pass it on for you.

If you can PM me some phone numbers or email addresses for the area you live or point me in the direction of your local council where I can find out who to contact, I will be more than happy to do so on your behalf. You should not be left feeling this vulnerable and I won't let them fob you off or get away with ignoring you.
x

[stace]

This is from the Shelter web page. Hopefully has something helpful in it for you but like I said I am happy to contact people or authorities on your behalf if you don't feel up to it. Just let me know.

Most homeless 16 and 17 year olds are entitled to accommodation and support from social services rather than the housing department of the council.

What will happen if I ask the housing department for help?
The housing department will normally want to refer your case to social services. However, the housing department will have a duty to house you immediately, as you will be in priority need until social services have decided what duty (if any) they have to help you. If you have problems, call our free housing advice helpline or use our directory to find a local advice centre.

If social services then assess your case and decide that they do not have to provide accommodation for you then you are still automatically in priority need and should continue the assessment.

What will happen if I ask social services for help?
Social services can give you housing, financial support and a range of services. It may actually be to your advantage to receive help from social services rather than the housing department. See our page on support for 16 and 17 year olds for more information.

It is very rare for a 16 or 17 year old not to be entitled to housing and support from social services. This is only likely to be the case if:

you had been living independently for some time before you became homeless, or
you do not accept an offer of accommodation because you do not want to be 'looked after' by social services.
If you have nowhere to stay tonight and social services do not offer you emergency accommodation, you should apply as homeless as well. The housing department will then have a duty to house you immediately, as you will be in priority need until social services have decided what duty (if any) they have to help you.

What will happen if I'm not entitled to help from social services?
If you are not entitled to accommodation from social services then you are automatically in priority need and should continue the assessment to check what you might be entitled to from the housing department. You should also get specialist advice as soon as you can. This decision could mean that you are entitled to less help, both now and in the future. Call Shelter's housing advice helpline or use our directory to find a local advice service.

[CrazyLady17]

Thank you for that infomation, will read it properly later on when I am not as busy...
Thank you again.

Exactly, I have every right to be so damn angry right now...
At least my parents got me some presents, and thank you.
Merry Christmas to you too.

I will PM you sometime x

[CrazyLady17]

Love how when I get out of hospital I'll still be homeless. Well this isn't fair, Social services don't get now that I'm not pregnant. It's a load of bull.

[stace]

You are right , it is bull sweetie. I've been reading what I can about this and from what I can make out social services have a legal duty to find you accommodation and to help you along the way to independent living. They have this duty to 16 and 17 year old's regardless of whether they are expecting a baby. If they are telling you otherwise then I suspect they are lying and trying to put off their duties until you turn 18. Quite what this would mean I am not sure but I am naturally skeptical of these institutions and this is my first thought.

These people know you are young, they know what they can usually get away with and rightly or wrongly I am sure they will try everything they can to avoid the expense that entails. You need to be strong and assertive with them but it's important to know where you stand so you should definitely get in contact with people who know how the system works.

First have a look to see if there are any local groups that deal with homelessness in your region, failing that there is still Shelter and the CAB. I imagine Shelter would be the most helpful. I am happy to look for you, just let me know which council is responsible for your area and I will dig around for some contact numbers. I will contact them if you need me to as well, just let me know. x

[Frame]

So your parents came to the hospital, is that right?

What did you get, then, for Christmas?

[CrazyLady17]

Stace;
I was living in a homeless shelter until I was admitted to hospital after attempting a serious matter of suicide. Now been sectioned and won't be allowed out for a long time now. It's rubbish.
Exactly my point!!!
The social services are lying to me, they don't care about me at all, because I'm not "in danger" or being "abused". Bull... is all I can say!!!
They can go....

Frame;
No they didn't come to the hospital, they gave the presents to the duty nurse to give to me.
I didn't see or speak to my parents all over Christmas.

[Frame]

And what did they get you for Christmas?

[CrazyLady17]

Perfume, make-up, money, CD's, Dr Dre beats(headphones, purple) and a pandara baslet.